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National Indian Brotherhood, Indian-Eskimo Association, Union of Ontario Indians and Canadian-Indian Centre of Toronto (Applicants)
v.
Pierre Juneau, H. J. Boyle, Mrs. P. Pearce, Hal Dornan, R. Therrien, and the Canadian Radio - Television Commission (Respondents)
No. 3
Trial Division, Walsh J.—Toronto, June 14; Ottawa, December 3, 1971.
Judicial Review—Certiorari—Mandamus—Broadcast-
ing—CRTC—Refusal to order public inquiry of complaint against proposed telecast—Whether reviewable by Court— Broadcasting Act, R.S.C. 1970, c. B-11, s. 19(2)(c).
On May 26, 1971, the Executive Committee of the CRTC passed a resolution that it was not satisfied it was in the public interest to hold a public hearing on applicants' com plaint that a film proposed to be telecast by the CTV network was defamatory of Indians. Applicants applied to this Court for certiorari to review the proceedings of the CRTC concerning their complaint and for mandamus to compel the CRTC to hold a public hearing on their complaint.
Held, dismissing the application, the CRTC's decision not to hold a public hearing into applicants' complaint was not reviewable by the Court on an application for certiorari or mandamus. A decision by the CRTC under s. 19(2)(c) of the Broadcasting Act., R.S.C. 1970, c. B-11, as to whether it is in the public interest to hold a public hearing on a complaint is entirely within the discretion of the CRTC.
Pure Spring Co. v. M.N.R. [1946] Ex.C.R. 471; Gam- ache v. Jones [1968] 1 Ex.C.R. 345, distinguished.
J. Kars wick for applicants.
Claude Thompson and J. D. Hylton for respondents.
WALSH J.—This matter came on for hearing before me in Toronto on June 14, 1971 on a motion asking
(a) For an Order by way of Mandamus directed to Pierre Juneau, H. J. Boyle, Mrs. P. Pearce, Hal Dornan, R. .Therrien, all the members of the Executive Committee of the Canadian Radio-Television Commission, to decide, declare or state whether they are satisfied that it would be in the public interest to hold a public hearing into the complaint filed by the Applicants with respect to the film "The Taming of the Canadian West",
And further, to decide, declare or state the basis for such declaration or statement,
(b) In the alternative, for an Order for the issuance of a Writ of Certiorari directing the Secretary of the Canadian Radio-Television Commission, its members, officers and directors to forthwith transmit to the office of the Regis trar of the Federal Court of Canada all letters, memos, papers, certificates, records and all proceedings had or taken concerning the complaint filed with respect to "The Taming of the Canadian West",
And further, for an Order by way of Mandamus directing the Canadian Radio-Television Commission to hold and conduct a public inquiry into the complaint filed by the Applicants with respect to the film, "The Taming of the Canadian West".
(c) For such further and other Order as may seem just.
In my judgment dated June 18, 1971 [see page 66], I dealt with certain of the objections raised by respondents to the proceedings but withheld a decision on the merits as the appli cants had also elected to proceed under the provisions of section 28 of the Federal Court Act before the Court of Appeal for an order to set aside the decision of the Executive Commit tee of respondents of May 26, 1971 that it would not be in the public interest to hold a public hearing on the complaint filed, and the hearing of an application for directions under the provisions of Rule 1403 in connection with this application had been fixed for June 21, 1971 at Toronto. While I expressed doubt as to whether the Court of Appeal could or would accept jurisdiction under the provisions of the said section 28(1) of the Act, especially in view of the provisions of section 61(1) of the Act, which reads as follows:
61. (1) Where this Act creates a right of appeal to the Court of Appeal or a right to apply to the Court of Appeal under section 28 to have a decision or order reviewed and set aside, such right applies, to the exclusion of any other right of appeal, in respect of a judgment, decision or order given or made after this Act comes into force, unless, in the case of a right of appeal, there was at that time a right of appeal to the Exchequer Court of Canada.
it is clear that, according to section 28(3) of the Act, which reads as follows:
28. (3) Where the Court of Appeal has jurisdiction under this section to hear and determine an application to review and set aside a decision or order, the Trial Division has no jurisdiction to entertain any proceeding in respect of that decision or order.
the Trial Division would have no jurisdiction in the event that the Court of Appeal should decide to hear and determine an application to review and set aside the said decision. I there fore indicated that as the Court of Appeal would itself be deciding at an early date wheth er or not it had jurisdiction, I would defer my decision on the merits pending the outcome of its findings.
On the hearing of the application for direc tions by Jackett C.J. in Toronto on June 21, 1971, he rendered judgment from the Bench [see page 73], considering the question of juris diction and indicating his opinion that, in view of the provisions of section 61(1) of the Federal Court Act and that the decision was made on May 28, 1971', the Court of Appeal is preclud ed from having jurisdiction in the matter. His judgment expressed the hope that, unless the application was withdrawn, either the respond ents or the Deputy Attorney General of Canada would make a motion to quash under Rule 1100(1) so as to raise the matter of jurisdiction, and stated that if no such motion was made within ten days and the application was not withdrawn, it was anticipated that the Court, consisting of three judges, would then issue a direction under Rule 1100(2) giving the parties an opportunity to be heard on the jurisdiction question 2 . After a brief discussion of what type of decision or order may be brought within the meaning of "a decision or order of an adminis trative nature not required by law to be made on a judicial or quasi-judicial basis" within the meaning of section 28(1) of the Federal Court Act, and raising, but expressing no opinion on, the question of whether section 19 of the Broadcasting Act does not make the question as to whether a particular complaint should be dealt with by "public hearing" or some other way that complies with basic principles one of absolute, unconditional discretion for the Executive Committee, the judgment goes on to state that in his view a judge of the Trial Divi sion should not feel any reluctance to decide a question concerning the jurisdiction of the Court of Appeal when that question is inciden tal to determining the jurisdiction of the Trial Division as he has just as much right to decide
such a question when it arises before him as the Court of Appeal has when it arises in that Court.
Subsequently, an application for an injunc tion was made by applicants herein against the CTV Television Network Limited seeking to restrain it from re-broadcasting the film com plained of "The Taming of the Canadian West" which was heard in Toronto on July 16, 1971 and judgment rendered from the Bench by Kerr J. [see page 127], who, after expressing doubt that in the Broadcasting Act Parliament intend ed to give to the Federal Court of Canada, Trial Division, jurisdiction to enjoin the CTV from broadcasting a particular programme, as the Court would then, in effect, be exercising func tions of regulation and supervision of the Canadian broadcasting system that Parliament has seen fit to entrust to the CRTC, refused to grant the injunction. I understand that the pro gramme was then re-broadcast. Subsequently, no further steps have been taken by either party in the proceedings before the Court of Appeal, whether by way of withdrawing the application or by a motion to quash same for want of jurisdiction, nor has the Court issued a direction under Rule 1100(2) giving the parties an oppor tunity to be heard on the jurisdiction question. As several months have elapsed it now appears unlikely that any further action will be taken with respect to those proceedings. In view of the re-broadcast of the offending programme, despite all efforts taken by applicants to pre vent same, the decision to be rendered on the matter before me may now be merely of aca demic interest, but as the right to a public hearing, which applicants seek to force the CRTC to hold with respect to the said pro gramme, does not depend on whether or not it was in fact re-broadcast, and since the question of whether the decision of the CRTC not to hold such a public hearing is subject to review by the Court is one of considerable importance with respect to possible future actions of a similar nature, I believe it is now incumbent upon me to render a judgment on the merits of the motion before me.
In view of the provisions of section 61(1) of the Federal Court Act and the fact that the decision not to hold a public hearing was made on May 26, 1971, that is to say before the provisions of that Act came into effect on June 1, 1971, I have reached the conclusion that the Court of Appeal does not have jurisdiction under section 28(1) of the Act to review the decision of respondents. Having reached this conclusion it is unnecessary for me to deal with the second question of whether it would, in any event, lack jurisdiction because the decision or order was of an administrative nature not required by law to be made on a judicial or quasi-judicial basis. It follows that sitting as a judge of the Trial Division I have jurisdiction to determine the merits of the motion before me for a writ of mandamus and certiorari.
In order to do so it is necessary to go to some extent into the factual background of the dis pute. Some time in March 1970 the CTV Net work screened the film entitled "The Taming of the Canadian West" which, according to the applicants, is blatantly racist, historically inac curate, and slanderous to the Indian race and culture. Applicants first communicated with the Ontario Human Rights Commission which arranged a private screening of the film but was unable to arrange a meeting between represen tatives of the CTV Network and the Indians to discuss the areas of complaint and could not compel any action by the CTV as this was a matter within federal jurisdiction. A brief was then prepared and supported by applicants' con sultants, Dr. E. S. Rogers, Curator of Ethnolo gy, Royal Ontario Museum, and Mrs. Norma Sluman, an historical consultant, pointing out the misinformation and historical inaccuracies in the film and this brief was filed with the Canadian Radio-Television Commission on June 22, 1970. Despite repeated letters from applicants' attorneys requesting the CRTC to conduct a formal investigation, it was not until September 24, 1970 that the General Counsel of respondents wrote indicating that the produc tion had been reviewed by the Programmes Branch and that a report to the Commission had been prepared. On October 14, 1970, appli-
cants' attorneys, having learned that a written rebuttal to the brief had been prepared by Mr. Frank Rasky, who had written the book on which the programme was based, requested a copy of this rebuttal and by letter dated Octo- ber 27, 1970 this was refused on the basis that it was part of the Commission's material and not in the public records of the Commission. When applicants' attorneys pointed out to respondents that at their request they had sent the CTV a copy of their complaints, and that therefore they could not understand why the same courtesy and consideration was not extended to them in connection with the reply, they were then sent on November 17, 1970 what purported to be a copy of Mr. Rasky's reply, allegedly with the consent of Mr. Rasky for its release. This was a four page document and it was not until May of 1971 that applicants received from the CTV a complete copy of Mr. Rasky's rebuttal which consisted of thirty pages.
It was not until February 2, 1971 that appli cants' attorneys received a letter from J. H. McKernin, Acting Director of the Broadcast Programmes Branch of respondents, indicating that an examination of the matters surrounding the programme had been concluded by the Commission and that while it did raise certain problems, it was not felt that it warranted fur ther examination. The letter went on to recom mend that applicants meet with representatives of the CTV Network to discuss the problems and through negotiations to reach an agreement as to whether some editing would resolve fur ther difficulties. In reply to this, by letter dated March 3, 1971, applicants' attorneys again requested a formal investigation into the matter, and meanwhile requested that the CRTC arrange a meeting between the CTV and representatives of the Indian Group and the officers of the CRTC to discuss the specific complaints. Nearly one month later, on April 2, 1971, following a telephone call from appli cants' attorneys, Mr. McKernin reiterated his suggestion of a meeting between applicants and CTV representatives, which meeting a represen tative of the CRTC would attend as applicants' attorneys insisted. Applicants then arranged a meeting for May 6, 1971 and advised Mr. Arthur Weinthal, Director of the CTV Televi-
sion Network of this by letter dated April 26 and on April 27 wrote respondents requesting them to have a representative at the meeting. On April 30, however, Mr. Weinthal wrote them, enclosing a copy of Mr. Rasky's reply to the complaint and indicating that since appli cants had not reviewed Mr. Rasky's comments, it seemed to him unnecessary to plan a meeting until they had had an opportunity to make this review. On May 3, applicants' attorneys replied indicating the urgency of the meeting in view of the expressed intention to telecast the movie again in July, and again requested Mr. Weinthal to attend the meeting on May 6. This was followed by a telegram dated May 4, 1971 from the CRTC to applicants' attorneys stating that they were not attending the meeting on May 6, since as Mr. Weinthal had stated in his letter of April 30 that it seemed unnecessary to plan a meeting until applicants had had an opportunity of reviewing Mr. Rasky's comments, apparently both parties were not ready to meet to resolve the problem on May 6. On May 5 applicants' attorneys sent a special delivery letter to the CRTC expressing shock at this telegram, con firming that they had studied Mr. Rasky's reply and were prepared to outline their areas of differences with the CTV at the meeting and that they objected strongly to the meeting being cancelled by the CTV or by the CRTC and again reiterating their intention of holding the meeting. A copy of this was sent to Mr. Wein- thal of the CTV. Neither the CTV nor the CRTC attended the meeting.
By letter dated May 7, 1971, applicants' attorneys communicated with the Honourable Gérard Pelletier, sending copies to the CRTC and CTV, asking for his direction and guidance and advising that they would have no alterna tive but to commence court action against the CRTC to compel them to discharge their statu tory duties by conducting an inquiry against the CTV and to ask for an injunction to stop the re-screening of this movie if no response was received within two weeks. Finally, on May 21, 1971, applicants' attorneys sent a letter to Pierre Juneau, Chairman of the CRTC, confirm-
ing their intention of instituting proceedings and asking for advice in the terms of section 19 of the Broadcasting Act as to whether the Execu tive Committee was satisfied that it would be in the public interest to hold a public hearing. In this letter it was indicated that if no reply was received within three days it would confirm their impression that the CRTC was avoiding making the decision.
Presumably, as a result of this letter, the Executive Committee of the CRTC met on May 26, 1971 and under the heading "Other Mat ters" the Minutes of the Meeting state as follows:
Letter received on May 26, 1971 from Mr. James Karswick representing the Indian Group who has requested a public inquiry on the programme "The Taming of the Canadian West". It was resolved that the Executive Committee is not satisfied that it would be in the public interest to hold a public hearing on the complaints filed by Mr. Karswick's client and asked the Chairman to send a telegram to Mr. Karswick expressing the opinion of the Executive Committee.
This decision was communicated to applicants' attorneys by telegram dated May 28, 1971, reading as follows:
ACCORDING TO WELL ESTABLISHED PRACTICE AND TRADITION IN BROADCASTING IN CANADA, THE LICENSEE OF A BROADCASTING UNDERTAK ING IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PROGRAMMES HE BROADCASTS. THIS POLICY IS REITERATED IN SECTION 2 OF THE 1968 BROADCASTING ACT.
THE COMMISSION FIRMLY BELIEVES THAT THIS POLICY IS OF VITAL IMPORTANCE TO THE MAINTENANCE OF THE RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION IN THE CANADIAN BROADCASTING SYSTEM. A DECISION TO SUSPEND THE BROAD CAST OF A PROGRAMME OR TO CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION INTO A SINGLE PROGRAMME SUCH AS THE TAMING OF THE CANADIAN WEST IS A MOST SERIOUS ONE.
YOUR LETTER OF MAY 21, 1971 IS THE FIRST NOTICE TO THE CRTC THAT YOU WISH THE COM PLAINTS OF YOUR CLIENTS TO BE CONSIDERED UNDER SECTION 19 OF THE BROADCASTING ACT AT A PUBLIC HEARING. IN LIGHT OF THE MAT TERS RAISED ABOVE, AND THE WILLINGNESS EXPRESSED BY CTV TO MEET TO DISCUSS THE PROGRAMME, THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE IS NOT SATISFIED THAT IT WOULD BE IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST TO HOLD A HEARING ON YOUR CLIENTS' COMPLAINT. THE COMMISSION HOPES THAT YOUR CLIENTS AND THE CTV WILL PURSUE
THIS MATTER AND THAT YOUR CLIENTS WILL AVAIL THEMSELVES OF THE OPPORTUNITY OFFERED TO THEM TO HAVE ANY INACCURACIES IN THE PROGRAMME CORRECTED OR SEEK OTHER SOLUTIONS WHICH COULD RESOLVE THE DIFFER ENCES. COPY OF THIS TELEX SENT TO CTV.
PIERRE JUNEAU CRTC
I have gone at some length into the factual background of the present proceedings as it is particularly indicative of the positions and atti tudes taken by the various parties concerned, and in my view justifies applicants' feelings of frustration at the manner in which their com plaints were being dealt with. In the first place, although applicants' initial complaint was set forth in detail in a brief filed with the CRTC on June 22, 1970, it was not until eight months later, and only after repeated urging by appli cants' attorneys, that the examination of the complaint was completed, as indicated by Mr. McKernin's letter of February 2, 1971. This letter merely expressed the hope that by meet ing with representatives of the CTV Network and negotiations with them an agreement could be reached acceptable to all parties.
Secondly, although this reply was far from satisfactory to applicants, they nevertheless accepted the suggestion and endeavoured to arrange a meeting with the CTV representa tives. It soon became apparent that the latter had no serious intention of meeting or negotiat ing the problems and certainly not of refraining from re-broadcasting the programme. The CRTC indicated by letter dated April 2, 1971 that it would have a representative attend the meeting since applicants insisted on this. On April 26 applicants arranged the meeting for May 6 but on April 30 Mr. Weinthal of CTV made it very clear that he considered the meet ing unnecessary, relying on the excuse that he was only just sending a copy of Mr. Rasky's reply to the criticism levelled by applicants and that they would not have time to review it before May 6. This is, to say the least, an extraordinary position to take. Applicants wanted to hold a meeting urgently in view of the impending re-broadcast of the programme in July, and the CTV in effect tell them that they should not desire to hold it so soon because
they have not had time to study material which the CTV are only then sending them. Surely applicants are the best judges of whether or not they would have time to review such material and if any postponement of the meeting were to be made as a result of such lack of time it should be they who would request it and not the CTV themselves. The fact that the CRTC had taken eight months to examine material sent to them and investigate the complaint does not justify an assumption that applicants were inca pable of perusing and studying Mr. Rasky's thirty page submission in six days. Despite this obviously flimsy excuse by the CTV to avoid meeting with applicants, the respondent, CRTC, adopted Mr. Weinthal's views and in the tele gram dated May 5, 1971 indicated that in view of Mr. Weinthal's letter apparently the parties are not ready to meet to solve the problem on May 6. Despite further letters from applicants' attorneys protesting vigorously against this postponement neither the CTV nor the CRTC attended the meeting. In fairness to the CRTC it must be pointed out that since they themselves had not arranged the meeting, and apparently were unwilling to do so or to bring any pressure on the CTV representatives to attend, it would obviously have been futile for them to have sent a representative knowing that Mr. Weinthal had no intention of attending the meeting on behalf of the CTV. However, their ready acquiescence to Mr. Weinthal's unilateral can cellation of the meeting certainly indicates that they had no intention of forcing him to meet with applicants' representatives, even though they had expressed the hope that such a meet ing might prove useful.
Thirdly, although at the request of the CRTC applicants had sent a copy of their brief com plaining about the programme to the CTV, the CRTC at first refused to give them a copy of Mr. Rasky's reply to it, and it was only when this discrepancy in the manner in which the two parties were being treated was called to their attention that they then released to applicants a truncated version of this reply. As a result, it was only in late May that applicants received
Mr. Rasky's full reply and the delay in furnish ing this was then used by the CTV, with the approval of the CRTC, as an excuse for not attending the meeting which had been arranged.
Fourthly, the telegram from the CRTC to applicants' attorneys on May 28, 1971 advising them of the decision of the Executive Commit tee of May 26 not to hold a public hearing contains some extraordinary statements, to wit:
YOUR LETTER OF MAY 21, 1971 IS THE FIRST NOTICE TO THE CRTC THAT YOU WISH THE COM PLAINTS OF YOUR CLIENTS TO BE CONSIDERED UNDER SECTION 19 OF THE BROADCASTING ACT AT A PUBLIC HEARING.
While this may be technically true, certainly it is abundantly clear by the correspondence over a period of nearly a year that a hearing was precisely what applicants were seeking and which they felt they had not received. The telegram goes on to state:
...IN LIGHT OF THE MATTERS RAISED ABOVE, AND THE WILLINGNESS EXPRESSED BY CTV TO MEET TO DISCUSS THE PROGRAMME, THE EXECU TIVE COMMITTEE IS NOT SATISFIED THAT IT WOULD BE IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST TO HOLD A HEARING ON YOUR CLIENTS' COMPLAINT.
Again, it may be technically correct to say that the CTV had expressed willingness to meet to discuss the programme, but they had made it clear that they considered such a meeting futile, and it must certainly have been evident by this time to all parties that the CTV had no intention of voluntarily making any major changes in the programme or withholding it from being re broadcast, unless compelled to do so.
It seems evident that the CRTC, while con stantly expressing the hope that the parties could get together and adjust their differences so that the matters in dispute could be buried and forgotten, was unwilling to take any posi tive action whatsoever beyond agreeing on applicants' insistence to •send a representative to such a meeting when and if same could be arranged, nor was it willing, or perhaps able, to bring any pressure whatsoever on the CTV Net work to compel it to withdraw or make changes
in the said programme, or even to compel it to attend a meeting to discuss same . The CTV, for its part, having no doubt invested substantial sums in the said programme which had proved very controversial following its first broadcast, was eager to reap the fruits of the controversy which it had aroused and broadcast it again, and while willing, if obliged to, to make minor changes in questions of historical accuracy, it had no intention whatsoever of making major alterations or of withdrawing the film from fur ther broadcast.
I am not of course dealing with the merits of the programme, which question is not before me, but merely with the attitude of the various parties to the dispute as revealed by their corre spondence and other communications. Neither am I concluding that, merely because applicants appear to have been dealt with rather harshly, and their complaints, whether justified or not, only examined after long delays and frustrating obstructions, they necessarily have the right to the relief they now seek, which is a matter of law. It is now necessary therefore to examine the Broadcasting Act to determine just what powers it gives the CRTC to control the content of programmes being broadcast by the networks or individual stations.
Under the heading "Broadcasting Policy for Canada" the Broadcasting Act R.S.C. 1970, c. B-11 states in section 3(b) as follows:
(b) the Canadian broadcasting system should be effective ly owned and controlled by Canadians so as to safeguard, enrich and strengthen the cultural, political, social and economic fabric of Canada;
Section 3(c) reads as follows:
(c) all persons licensed to carry on broadcasting undertak ings have a responsibility for programs they broadcast but the right to freedom of expression and the right of per sons to receive programs, subject only to generally appli cable statutes and regulations, is unquestioned;
Section 3(g)(iv) reads as follows:
(g) the national broadcasting service should
(iv) contribute to the development of national unity and provide for a continuing expression of Canadian identity;
Section 15, under the heading "Objects of the Commission" reads as follows:
15. Subject to this Act and the Radio Act and any direc tions to the Commission issued from time to time by the Governor in Council under the authority of this Act, the Commission shall regulate and supervise all aspects of the Canadian broadcasting system with a view to implementing the broadcasting policy enunciated in section 3 of this Act.
Under the heading "Powers of the Commission" we find in section 16 the following:
16. (1) In furtherance of its objects, the Commission, on the recommendation of the Executive Committee, may
(b) make regulations applicable to all persons holding broadcasting licences, or to all persons holding broadcast ing licences of one or more classes,
(i) respecting standards of programs and the allocation of broadcasting time for the purpose of giving effect to paragraph 3(d),
(c) subject to this Part, revoke any broadcasting licence other than a broadcasting licence issued to the Corporation.
Section 3(d) reads as follows:
(d) the programming provided by the Canadian broadcast ing system should be varied and comprehensive and should provide reasonable, balanced opportunity for the expression of differing views on matters of public con cern, and the programming provided by each broadcaster should be of high standard, using predominantly Canadian creative and other resources;
Section 19 makes a public hearing mandatory in connection with the issue of a broadcasting licence or where the Commission or the Execu tive Committee has under consideration the revocation or suspension of a broadcasting licence, and also makes it mandatory in connec tion with the renewal of a broadcasting licence unless the Commission is satisfied that such a hearing is not required. Other uses of the public hearing procedure are not mandatory, however, and, in particular, section 19(2)(c) reads as follows:
19. (2) A public hearing shall be held by the Commission, if the Executive Committee is satisfied that it would be in the public interest to hold such a hearing, in connection with
(c) a complaint by a person with respect to any matter within the powers of the Commission.
While the Act sets out the procedure in connec tion with such public hearing, it is silent as to what action the Commission can take as a result of such a public hearing save, of course, for the revocation or suspension of a licence or refusal to renew same when it comes up for renewal.
Section 14(4) dealing with the powers of the Executive Committee reads as follows:
14. (4) For the purposes of this Act, any act or thing done by the Executive Committee in the exercise of the powers conferred on it by this Part shall be deemed to be an act or thing done by the Commission.
Section 18(2) provides that the Executive Committee may from time to time and shall, in accordance with any direction to the Commis sion issued by the Governor in Council under the authority of the Act, require a licensee to broadcast any programme deemed to be of urgent importance to Canadians generally or to persons resident in the area to which the notice relates. It is significant that, although this sec tion provides for an order to be issued under certain conditions requiring a certain pro gramme to be broadcast, there is no similar provision whatsoever for an order to be issued prohibiting the broadcast of any given programme.
Section 64(3) of the Federal Court Act, when read in conjunction with Schedule B of that Act, which came into effect on June 1, 1971, repeals subsections (1) to (4) of section 26 of the Broadcasting Act and substitutes therefor an appeal to the Federal Court of Appeal upon a question of law or a question of jurisdiction upon leave therefor being obtained. This would appear to be in addition to the right to review provided under section 28(1) of the Federal Court Act but would also be subject to the provisions of section 61(1) of that Act so that the Court of Appeal would not have jurisdiction to hear an appeal against the decision of May 26, 1971 even if such an appeal had been sought by applicants. It is of interest to note
that subsections (3) and (4) of section 26 of the Broadcasting Act which were repealed had given the Exchequer Court of Canada exclusive original jurisdiction over, among others, writs of certiorari or mandamus relating to any deci sion or order of the Commission or any pro ceedings before the Commission but had pro vided that such decisions or orders were not subject to review or to be restrained by such proceedings on the ground that the question of law or fact was erroneously decided by the Commission or that the Commission had no jurisdiction to entertain the proceedings in which the decision or order was made, or to make the decision or order. As a result of this repeal, such proceedings now come within the less restrictive provisions of section 18 of the Federal Court Act, and the fact that the motion before me was filed on May 28, 1971 would not affect this jurisdiction since it is not section 61(1) of the Act which applies but section 61(2), which section reads as follows:
61. (2) Subject to subsection (1), any jurisdiction created by this Act shall be exercised in respect of matters arising as well before as after the coming into force of this Act.
It is also of interest to note that sections 25 and 26(5) of the Broadcasting Act were not repealed by the Federal Court Act. These sec tions read as follows:
25. Except as provided in this Part, every decision or 'order of the Commission is final and conclusive.
26. (5) Any minute or other record of the Commission or any document issued by the Commission in the form of a decision or order shall, if it relates to the issue, amendment, renewal, revocation or suspension of a broadcasting licence, be deemed for the purposes of section 25 and this section to be a decision or order of the Commission.
The effect of the retention of these sections would appear to be that since the decision or order which is complained of does not relate to the issue, amendment, renewal, revocation or suspension of a broadcasting licence, it will not be deemed to be a decision or order of the Commission for the purposes of section 25 and, hence, to be final and conclusive.
Reading the Act as a whole and in particular the sections to which I have referred, I find it difficult to conclude that Parliament intended to or did give the Commission the authority to act as a censor of programmes to be broadcast or televised. If this had been intended, surely provision would have been made somewhere in the Act giving the Commission authority to order an individual station or a network, as the case may be, to make changes in a programme deemed by the Commission, after an inquiry, to be offensive or to refrain from broadcasting same. Instead of that, it appears that its only control over the nature of programmes is by use of its power to revoke, suspend or fail to renew the licence of the offending station.
Basing himself on the generalized statements in the Act under the heading "Broadcasting Policy for Canada" and, in particular, sections 3(b) and 3(g)(iv) (supra), applicants' counsel argued strongly that it was the duty of the Commission to ensure that the Canadian broad casting system should be effectively owned and controlled by Canadians "so as to safeguard, enrich and strengthen the cultural, political, social and economic fabric of Canada" and that the national broadcasting service should "con- tribute to the development of national unity and provide for a continuing expression of Canadian identity". Even if one were to assume that the programme in question was so offensive as to constitute an infringement of these policies, it is apparent that these sections are not intended to apply to each and every programme but to broadcasting policy as a whole. Section 3(b), for example, refers to the ownership and control of Canadian broadcasting system by Canadians so as to safeguard the policies therein set out, while section 3(g)(iv), stating that the national broadcasting service should contribute to the development of national unity and provide for a continuing expression of Canadian identity, appears to be referring to the service as a whole. Even section 16 of the Act, dealing with the powers of the Commission respecting the issuing of licences, although it states in subsec-
tion (1)(b)(i) (supra) that the Commission may make regulations respecting standards of pro grammes and the allocation of broadcasting time, limits this to the purposes of giving effect to section 3(d), which is merely a section prov iding that the programming should be varied and comprehensive and provide reasonable balanced opportunities for the expression of differing views on matters of public concern and be of high standard, using predominantly Canadian creative and other resources. Here again it is apparently the general programming that is being referred to and not any individual programme and, in any event, as already stated, the only sanction provided would be the revoca tion, suspension or refusal to renew the licence if a programme did not comply with this regulation.
Turning now to section 19 of the Act with respect to which the decision of the Executive Committee, which by virtue of section 14(4) is equivalent to a decision by the Commission, was made, the section clearly sets forth that a public hearing shall be held if the Executive Committee is satisfied that it would be "in the public interest to hold such a hearing" in con nection with a complaint by a person with respect to any matter within the powers of the Commission. The decision of the Executive Committee made on May 26, 1971 on the urging of counsel for the applicants, was to the effect that it would not be in the public interest to hold such a hearing. Applicants' counsel argued that since the Minute recording this decision referred only to his letter, it was made without an adequate examination of the subject- matter of the complaint and that in exercising its administrative authority under section 19, the Executive Committee was not acting in a judicial manner. I cannot agree with this argu ment. The members of the Executive Commit tee, one of whom was Mr. Juneau himself, had certainly participated in the lengthy discussions which had been going on for nearly a year and can be assumed to be aware of the contents of the study made which had led to the report in February, referred to in Mr. McKernin's letter of February 2, and it is not necessary nor usual to include in the Minutes recording a decision
reached at a meeting details of all the arguments and information received which led to this deci sion. Without expressing either approval or dis approval of this decision, since I have neither the authority to do so, nor all the information which was before the Committee, nor have I even seen the programme, I can nevertheless state that it is even difficult to see what could have been gained by a public hearing since there is no provision in the Act to the effect that, during such a hearing, the broadcast or re-broadcast of a programme shall be prohibit ed. While a public hearing would have enabled the applicants to make their side of the question known to the public, it would not apparently have accomplished their primary objective which was to prevent the offensive programme from being televised again, nor perhaps even their secondary objective of preventing further programmes of a similarly allegedly offensive nature from being produced. On the contrary, the controversy aroused would have made the public even more anxious to see the programme complained of and played right into the hands of the CTV who had every intention of televis ing it a second time. Many a book or play has owed its success to publicity resulting from the banning of or controversy surrounding same. Such an inquiry would have taken many months to complete and, meanwhile, the programme would have been broadcast again as, in fact, it was.
Section 3(c) of the Act, under the heading "Broadcasting Policy for Canada" sets forth:
3. It is hereby declared that
(c) all persons licensed to carry on broadcasting under takings have a responsibility for programs they broadcast but the right to freedom of expression and the right of persons to receive programs, subject only to generally applicable statutes and regulations, is unquestioned;
This seems to impose a sort of self-censorship on the individual licensees which is, in practice, not very effective and does not prevent them from producing from time to time programmes which are in poor taste or offensive to a sub stantial number of viewers. So long as they do not infringe on laws relating to slander, libel or obscenity, they are apparently on safe ground
as there is nothing in the Act which gives the CRTC the right to act as censor of the contents of any individual programme. It is apparent in the manner in which the Commission handled this complaint that it does not intend to act as such. The revocation, suspension or failure to renew a licence is such a serious matter that it is not a course the Commission is likely to adopt save for grave and repeated offences, and it would appear that it is reluctant to use this power as a threat to compel the individual licen sees or, in the present case, a broadcasting chain, to alter or withhold a programme with respect to which complaints have been received. The most it was prepared to do in the present case was to attempt to bring the parties together in the hope that they, themselves, might find a satisfactory solution to their con troversy. I therefore find that under the existing law the decision of the Executive Committee that it would not be in the public interest to hold a public hearing was an administrative one which it was entitled to make. It is not for the Court to comment on whether or not the CRTC should be given more powers of control over the subject-matter of programmes broadcast or televised by its licensees as this is a decision which Parliament alone can make but, at pres ent, it is evident that the powers given to it in this field are very limited and ineffective.
In paragraph (a) of their notice of motion, applicants ask for an order by way of man- damus calling on the Executive Committee of the CRTC to decide, declare or state whether they are satisfied that it would be in the public interest to hold a public hearing into the com plaint filed by the applicants. Apparently, at the time this motion was drawn applicants were not aware that the Executive Committee had already reached this decision at a meeting on May 26. Up until that date the Executive Com mittee had not made any decision under section 19(2)(c), which is the section in question, allegedly because it had not specifically been asked to do so. Had it refused to apply this section and made a decision as to whether or not in its view it would be in the public interest to hold a hearing in connection with the com-
plaint, it might well have been in order for applicants to seek a mandamus and compel it to make such a decision. However, as this decision had already been made by the time the motion was filed, no order can be made for the relief requested in the said paragraph (a).
Had the Commission decided to hold a public hearing and had then conducted same in a non- judicial manner or refused the right to 'appli- cants to have their witnesses heard at such a public hearing or had otherwise impeded the presentation of their case there might then poss ibly have been ground for the issuance of a writ of certiorari, but since the decision of the Executive Committee was merely to the effect that it would not be in the public interest to hold a public hearing, I am not of the opinion that it was necessary for the Executive Committee to conduct some sort of a hearing before reaching this decision. The Executive Committee, as I have already indicated, can be presumed to have had all pertinent information before it, even though same is not specifically referred to in the Minute recording its decision, and in reaching a conclusion as to whether or not it would be in the public interest to hold a public hearing it was certainly not necessary for it to go into all the evidence which would be present ed if such a public hearing were held or attempt to determine whether the complaint was justi fied or not. This was an administrative decision and the right to make it has been conferred by Parliament on the Executive Committee of the CRTC. There is nothing to indicate that it was ever intended that it could or should be reviewed by the Court, nor does the law relating to prerogative writs permit judicial review of a decision of this nature.
The same reasoning applies to the second prayer in paragraph (b) of the motion asking for a mandamus directing the CRTC to hold and conduct a public inquiry into the complaint. It was not, in my view, ever intended that the Court should substitute its discretion for that of the Executive Committee, and much less that the Court should be drawn into acting as a censor of the programme itself and be required
in any way to go into the merits of the com plaint with a view to determining whether in its view a public inquiry into it is in the public interest or not.
I find support for this view in the judgment of Thorson P. in Pure Spring Co. v. M.N.R. [1946] Ex.C.R. 471, which dealt with the discretionary powers of the Minister of National Revenue under what was then section 6(2) of the Income War Tax Act to determine what is reasonable or normal expense of the business carried on by the taxpayer and what is in excess thereof. Although more recent jurisprudence, and in fact the prior Supreme Court case of Wrights' Canadian Ropes Ltd. v. M.N.R. [1946] S.C.R. 139, which Thorson P. discusses at length in his judgment, would extend the right of the Court to review the exercise of Ministerial discretion much further than he does, I nevertheless believe that the statement he makes in his judg ment at page 503 when he says:
... the Minister's discretionary determination depends, not on an issue of fact, but on his opinion in a matter of administration and definition of a difficult public policy for which Parliament holds him responsible; it has not sought the opinion of the Court or its aid in the administration or definition of such policy; with such matters the Court is not concerned and ought not to interfere; its duties are solely judicial. The Court is concerned only with the question whether the Minister has actually exercised the discretion that Parliament has vested in him.
is still valid and applies in the present case. Under the present Act the decision under sec tion 19(2)(c) on a complaint as to whether a public hearing on the complaint would be in the public interest seems to be a matter entirely within the discretion of the Executive Commit tee of the CRTC.
Reference was made by applicants' counsel to the judgment of Noël J., as he then was in Gamache v. Jones et al. [1968] 1 Ex.C.R. 345, which, inter alia, dealt with the application of the Canadian Bill of Rights, section 2(e) of which reads as follows:
2. Every law of Canada shall, unless it is expressly declared by an Act of the Parliament of Canada that it shall operate notwithstanding the Canadian Bill of Rights, be so
construed and applied as not to abrogate, abridge or infringe or to authorize the abrogation, abridgment or infringement of any of the rights or freedoms herein recognized and declared, and in particular, no law of Canada shall be construed or applied so as to
(e) deprive a person of the right to a fair hearing in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice for the determination of his rights and obligations;
to the case where an administrative decision involved the downgrading and reclassifying of a pilot without giving him a hearing. It was held that although the decision to demote the plain tiff was an administrative one, it entailed a duty to observe the principles of natural justice. This case can readily be distinguished, however. As indicated previously we are not dealing here with a hearing which took place at which the applicants were not allowed to be heard but merely with a decision not to hold a public hearing, and I do not consider it was necessary for the applicants to be heard before the Execu tive Committee reached such an administrative decision, especially in view of the material _which it undoubtedly had before it or of which the members were aware at the time the deci sion that a public hearing would not be in the public interest was reached. If the Bill of Rights were to be given the broad interpretation con tended for by applicants it would mean that every time an administrative decision was made, even if it were on a routine matter or question of procedure, if the person who felt himself aggrieved by this decision had not been heard before it was made, the Courts could be asked to intervene to overrule the decision. The nature of a decision or order on which the Courts might properly intervene was touched on slightly by Jackett C.J. in his judgment of June 21, 1971 in these same proceedings. Although he was dealing with the subject in a different context, namely the nature of the deci sion or order which might be subject to review by the Court of Appeal under section 28(1) of the Act, his comments are nevertheless still pertinent.
Applicants' motion must therefore be dis missed, but in view of the fact that they may
well have a legitimate grievance (although I am not so deciding) for which the law as presently constituted appears to provide no adequate redress, I will exercise the discretion vested in me with respect to the costs of these proceed ings, and dismiss applicants' motion without costs.
Actually, the judgment of the Executive Committee of the CRTC was made on May 26, 1971, but only conveyed to applicants by telegram dated May 28, 1971.
2 Rule 1100(1) & (2) reads as follows:
RULE 1100. (1) An application to quash proceedings under section 52(a) of the Act may be made at any time, but failure to move promptly may, in the discretion of the Court, be ground for a special order as to costs of the motion and of the proceedings.
(2) The Court of Appeal may of its own motion make an order under section 52(a) quashing proceedings after giving the appellant and any other interested party an opportunity to be heard.
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